Time to Retire These? My Response

I mentioned yesterday that an MSN article listed some 1960’s Pop Songs that they felt needed to be retired. I didn’t say much about how I felt, as I wanted to see what my musical friends had to say. So here is a look again at the songs and why they felt they should be retired, followed by my two cents.

Let’s first talk about the word “retire.” I am guessing from the tone of the article that retire means to “go away for ever.” Isn’t that a bit harsh? I think so. Each of these songs (like it or not) may be someone’s favorite song.

While working in oldies radio, we used to have features that would pull out a song you don’t hear all the time and play it. Sometimes, we’d call it a “Forgotten Favorite” or a “song from the Music Museum.” The idea is to play a song that makes the listener go, “Wow, I remember this one,” “I haven’t heard this in forever,” or simply “Oh, wow!” One consultant I worked with used to call them “Oh Wow Songs.”

When radio “tested” songs, the audience is sat in an auditorium. They are played anywhere from 500-800 song clips. Each clip is usually 15 seconds long. They call those “hooks.” Ideally, it is the most recognizable part of the song. After they hear it, they are asked if they 1) liked the song, 2) disliked the song, 3) heard it too much, 4) didn’t hear it enough, or 5) don’t care either way.

The answers from that music test is then calculated and decisions are made about where it should be on the play list. If a song that is in a hot rotation is said to be played too much, the station would probably back off on the number of times it is played. If it was something they wanted to hear more of, they might spin it a few more times.

With all of that in mind, Let’s look at the songs again:

Sugar Sugar – The Archies

MSN: “Sugar, Sugar” by The Archies is a quintessential bubblegum pop tune that dominated the airwaves in the late ’60s. With its catchy chorus and playful melody, it quickly became a favorite among young audiences. Despite its charm, the song’s simplistic lyrics and repetitive tune can feel overly sweet, much like its title.

As a product of its time, the song was emblematic of the manufactured pop sound that appealed to a broad audience. Yet today, its perpetual presence in commercials and retro playlists has led to listener fatigue.

Keith: I’d like to know how they know that the listener is “fatigued” by this song. Was the song “tested?” Did they gather a bunch of people in an auditorium and actually let the listeners voice an opinion? I highly doubt it. It is a pretty bold statement to say people are tired of a song.

Bubblegum or not, the song is still being used in movies, commercials, and is a familiar favorite to radio listeners. Familiar is often what gets better ratings.

Green Tambourine – Lemon Pipers

MSN: The Lemon Pipers’ “Green Tambourine” captures the essence of the psychedelic era with its vivid imagery and whimsical sound. The song invites listeners into a world of colorful imagination, driven by its distinctive tambourine rhythm.

Despite its initial success, the song’s psychedelic charm feels dated, often overshadowed by more timeless tracks from the era. Its vivid imagery, once enchanting, now appears somewhat kitschy.

“Green Tambourine” was one of the first bubblegum pop songs to hit number one, symbolizing the fleeting nature of the genre’s appeal.

Keith: FYI – Kitschy means considered to be in poor taste because of excessive garishness or sentimentality, but sometimes appreciated in an ironic or knowing way. Thanks for using big words here MSN.

Does it sounded dated? Maybe, but no more dated that Magic Carpet Ride or any other “Psychedelic” song from that time. Does the “sound” of a song dictate whether or not it should be played? Let’s face it, if that was the case, we’d never hear disco or 80’s music. Talk about dated!

Personally, I don’t care for the song. That doesn’t mean that it should be retired.

In the Year 2525 – Zager and Evans

MSN: Zager and Evans’ “In the Year 2525” paints a dystopian future, capturing the anxieties of the late 1960s. The song’s lyrics take listeners on a speculative journey through time, each verse exploring the consequences of technological advancement.

While impactful during its time, its heavy-handed delivery and bleak outlook haven’t aged well. The song’s prophecy-driven narrative feels out of place in today’s music landscape, where optimism often takes center stage.

Keith: It seems to me that “today’s music landscape” is centered in drugs, sex, and profanity, so I’m not even sure that is a worthy comparison. Does “Give Peace a Chance” by John Lennon need to go away, too? “Gimme Shelter” by the Stones? Seems to me that there are plenty of songs that paint a grim future…

Cherish – The Association

MSN: “Cherish” by The Association is a ballad that epitomizes the romantic spirit of the 1960s. Its gentle melody and heartfelt lyrics made it a favorite for couples and weddings.

However, the song’s overtly sentimental tone can feel cloying to modern ears. While it speaks to eternal love, its earnestness may seem exaggerated today, overshadowing its lyrical beauty.

Keith: “Cloying” means excessively sweet, rich, or sentimental, especially to a disgusting or sickening degree. Apparently, wanting to express your love to someone in song is annoying to “modern ears.”

Maybe that is what’s wrong with the world today. Maybe people feel that this kind of feeling is impossible to experience? Perhaps there is more lust in the world than love? I go back to another “cloying” song – What the world needs now – is love!

Little Children – Billy J Kramer

MSN: “Little Children” by Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas tells a playful yet subtly unsettling story through its lyrics. The song’s narrative involves coaxing children to keep secrets, wrapped in a catchy melody that belies its unusual theme.

While musically engaging, the lyrics raise eyebrows today, as the playful intent can be misinterpreted. Its charm lies in its ability to create vivid imagery, though its content doesn’t resonate well with contemporary audiences.

Keith: In the past, I have been guilty of buying something and telling the kids, “Don’t tell mom.” I know that the article is trying to take this to an entirely new (and all to common today) level. I’m sure that was not the intention. It was like the “Baby It’s Cold Outside” fiasco a few years ago. “Let’s make the song say something that it wasn’t intended to say!”

I don’t hear the song enough for it to be a big deal. Honestly, in today’s music, there are far more disgusting and immoral things being sung about.

MacArthur Park – Richard Harris

MSN: Richard Harris’s “MacArthur Park” is an epic ballad known for its abstract lyrics and grand orchestration. The song’s vivid, though puzzling, imagery of a cake left in the rain has intrigued listeners for decades.

Despite its ambitious nature, the song’s dramatic delivery and length can feel overwhelming, often sparking debate among music enthusiasts. Its metaphorical complexity leaves some listeners puzzled rather than enchanted.

Keith: I never cared for this song. To me, it was a long song that I could play when I needed to use the restroom. Incidentally, I’d like to flush this song down a toilet. But, that is MY subjective opinion.

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da – The Beatles

MSN: The Beatles’ “Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da” is a track that divides fans and critics alike. Its upbeat rhythm and catchy lyrics tell the simple story of Desmond and Molly Jones, painting a picture of everyday life.

Despite its playful nature, even within The Beatles, the song has drawn mixed reactions. Some band members themselves were not fond of it, and its repetitive chorus can feel tiresome.

Keith: Proof that music is subjective. Some of the Beatles themselves didn’t care for it. Does that mean retire it? Oh, and as far as the “repetitive chorus,” do they even know what a chorus is? It is literally defined: a part of a song that is repeated after each verse, typically by more than one singer.

I can think of countless songs where the chorus is repeated over and over. Many times, the chorus of the song is all the listeners know!

You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ – Righteous Brothers

MSN: The Righteous Brothers’ “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’” is a soulful anthem of love and longing. Its powerful vocals and lush orchestration have made it a staple in romantic playlists.

However, the song has been covered so extensively that its impact can feel diluted. While its emotional depth remains intact, listener fatigue is inevitable due to its pervasive presence across media.

Keith: I divert to Turntable Talker, Randy here. I don’t know how many covers there have been, but they aren’t all being played on the radio. Certainly not enough to cause “listener fatigue.”

The song is a classic.

Eve of Destruction – Barry McGuire

MSN: Barry McGuire’s “Eve of Destruction” is a protest song that captures the tumultuous spirit of the 1960s. Its urgent lyrics and raw delivery reflect the era’s social and political unrest.

While it resonated with audiences during its release, the song’s heavy-handed approach can feel outdated today. Its message, though powerful, lacks the nuance appreciated in contemporary protest music.

Keith: What exactly is the “nuance” that is appreciated in contemporary protest music? To me, this is a BS line to diss on the song.

Personally, it is one of the songs I hated to play. I never liked it, but I understood the message and how important it was for the time that is was released.

Build Me Up Buttercup – The Foundations

MSN: The Foundations’ “Build Me Up Buttercup” is a buoyant track that has become synonymous with feel-good nostalgia. Its upbeat tempo and catchy chorus have made it a perennial favorite at parties and karaoke nights.

While undeniably infectious, the song’s constant rotation can lead to listener fatigue. Its simplistic lyrics, once endearing, may now seem repetitive.

Keith: Thanks to the movie, There’s Something About Mary, this song gained more popularity in 1998. I believe that there was an earlier movie that also featured the song in the early 90’s that did as well, but I cannot think of what it was. Anyway, I can tell you that I played the snot out of this at parties and people danced!

It is not my favorite song, and yes it is repetitive. I wouldn’t mind hearing it every so often, not every day though.

Brown Eyed Girl – Van Morrison

MSN: Van Morrison’s “Brown Eyed Girl” is a timeless classic that captures the essence of youthful romance. Its infectious melody and lively beat have made it a favorite across generations.

However, its overplay has led some listeners to seek fresh alternatives, despite its enduring charm. The song’s universal appeal is both a blessing and a curse, contributing to its overexposure.

Keith: Again, if music testing was done, and it truly was played too much, there is a way to fix it. Play it less. A lighter rotation on the radio will make it sound even better when you DO hear it. Imagine not hearing it for a month and then finally hearing it – it will have that “Oh Wow” factor.

I don’t feel that this should ever go away forever.

The Ballad of the Green Berets – Sgt. Barry Sadler

MSN: Staff Sgt. Barry Sadler’s “The Ballad of the Green Berets” is a patriotic anthem that reflects the valor and sacrifice of soldiers. Its martial beat and stirring lyrics resonated deeply during the Vietnam War era.

Yet, in today’s context, the song’s straightforward patriotism may not strike the same chord. While honoring bravery, its style feels dated to modern sensibilities.

Keith: My dad is a veteran. I have many veteran friends. I constantly walk up to people with Veteran hats and thank them for their service. I love veterans and all that they have done for our country. They are heroes. I say all of that, because I don’t want you to take this the wrong way. I never liked this song. I’m not sure why.

I think that it could be appropriate to play around Veteran’s Day or Memorial Day, but that is it. It is just not a song that I feel should be in a regular rotation. There are plenty of other patriotic songs, most of which only come out for those special days mentioned above. Those songs may or may not feel out of place when heard on a normal day.

I’m trying not to let my personal feelings for the song sway me and my thoughts. I hope that it came across that way.

Yummy Yummy Yummy – Ohio Express

MSN: Ohio Express’s “Yummy Yummy Yummy” epitomizes the bubblegum pop genre with its sugary-sweet lyrics and catchy melody. The song’s playful repetition of “I got love in my tummy” made it an instant hit among teens.

However, its simplistic nature can feel overly kitsch, thus losing its novelty over time. The song’s enduring presence in retro playlists might not appeal to those seeking depth.

Keith: To me, this is a novelty song. Novelty songs are rarely on a regular playlist. I don’t think I ever played this when it wasn’t part of a themed weekend or a countdown show. I also don’t think I have ever seen it on a “retro playlist.” I also highly doubt that anyone “seeking depth” is going to grab an Ohio Express album.

Conclusion

Much of MSN’s “reasoning” for retiring these songs is flimsy. Honestly, the piece sounded like it was written by a guy who just hates these songs. Despite trying hard to make the reasons sound grounded in facts, they are not.

Music, like many other things, is subjective. What I like may not be what you like. How many times a song is played is based on your perception. I could play a song you love and a song you hate the same amount of times in a day. The song you love you are not hearing enough, while the song you hate you are hearing too much.

I realize that all of these types of lists are subjective, and I will take it that way. I appreciate your thoughts!

Time to Retire These?

I post this for all of my readers, but for my musical readers especially. Let me have your honest opinion.

While surfing MSN the other day, I came across an article entitled “1960’s Pop Songs That Should Be Permanently Retired.” I agree with some of these, and I’m sure you can guess which ones. On the other hand there are a couple I actually like.

So here is the list. No commentary. What are your thoughts? I will post my own comments in an upcoming blog.

1960’s Pop Songs That Should Be Permanently Retired (From MSN.com)

Sugar, Sugar – The Archies

Green Tambourine – Lemon Pipers

In The Year 2525 – Zager and Evans

Cherish – The Association

Little Children – Billy J. Kramer

MacArthur Park – Richard Harris

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La Da – The Beatles

You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ – Righteous Brothers

Eve of Destruction – Barry McGuire

Build Me Up Buttercup – The Foundations

Brown Eyed Girl – Van Morrison

The Ballad of the Green Berets – Sgt. Barry Sadler

Yummy, Yummy, Yummy – Ohio Express

There were a couple others on the list that were more late 1950’s, so I opted to not share those.

So, what do you think? Do you agree? Are there songs that should be on this list that aren’t? I’d love to hear your comments.

The Music of My Life – 1999

Welcome back to The Music of My Life, where I feature ten songs from each year of my life. In most cases, the ten songs I choose will be ones I like personally (unless I explain otherwise). The songs will be selected from Billboard’s Year-end Hot 100 Chart, Acclaimed Music, and will all be released in the featured year.

In 1999, I turned 29 years old. In September of that year, I would venture into a marriage that would fail years later. Two great sons came out of it though, and that was a great thing.

1999 was also the year that I began receiving monthly CDs with new music on them. It was a great was to always be sure to have clean edits of songs and be current. I received my first CD in May of that year and thankfully so!

I had been hired to DJ a prom. It was the first one I had ever done. I had been able to scrounge up some of the “newer” songs thanks to friends. However, a lot of the brand new stuff not in stores yet. (This is probably before I got my iPod and iTunes). Two days before the prom, that CD had the hottest song on the radio at the time. The song was Ricky Martin’s Livin’ La Vida Loca.

That night, I had requests for it and was surprised (and thankful) it was on the CD! I played it at least three times that night and knew my investment was a good one. Those CDs saved me plenty of times.

Frank Sinatra died on May 14, 1998, which was around the time this song was conceived. Co-writer Desmond Child told Songfacts that Sinatra’s music was a strong influence on this song. He said, “Frank Sinatra’s music was coming out of the airwaves, and we were all of a sudden into this Rat Pack idea, and also the Latin Elvis concept that we had for him. So we put that into the songs, as well – there was a swing aspect to it. So the verses were more like that, and then the choruses were all out rock anthems, with horns. Because horns had fallen out of favor, we brought horns back.”

Paul McCartney’s guitarist, Rusty Anderson, played on the song. Co-writer Robi Rosa asked him to put some guitar on some sections that were blank slates. He remembers: “I was thinking more of a James Bond vibe actually. But I kinda liked the way it counter-balanced the song.”

Anderson recorded his guitar work at his studio intending it to just be a demo. “I didn’t have a reverb to print that I was happy with so I figured the mixer would have the perfect reverb in mixdown,” he explained. “That recording turned into the single. When I heard it on the radio, I was shocked that they left it dry!”

Many years later, the song re-entered my life when I took my son to the movies. In Shrek 2, Puss in Boots (Antonio Banderas) and Donkey (Eddie Murphy) sing it as the credits roll.

Livin’ La Vida Loca

Next is a song that I always felt should have been a bigger hit. I Know How The River Feels was a song that was recorded first by country singer Ty Herndon in 1996. His version was never released. Diamond Rio recorded it for their Unbelievable album and it was their third single from it.

I liked it because it gave Diamond Rio a different sound. This was the first song of theirs to feature outside instruments as they added a string section to the arrangement. The song, however, was met with some negative reviews from critics. It only went to #33 on the Country charts.

I love the way the song uses a river with its twists and turns to describe the search for love. Finally, when it reaches the sea – the search, the twists, and the turns – you reach the final destination.

Now I know how the river feels
When it reaches the sea
And finally finds the place
It was always meant to be
Holding fast, home at last
Knowing the journey’s through
Lying here with you
I know how the river feels

I Know How The River Feels

Hey Leonardo by Blessid Union of Souls is a song that I liked for a few reasons. First, the parenthetical title is “She likes me for me.” Isn’t that what love is about? It’s not about the physical things, the status and such. It is about loving a person because they are that person. Next, I like when a song tosses in some pop culture references.

Songfacts says: This song is written in the form of a letter to someone named Leonardo – a reference to actor Leonardo DiCaprio. In the song, the singer lists many celebrities and the qualities they possess making them attractive to women. He emphasizes that while he does not have the same qualities, his girlfriend loves him just the way he is.

The celebrities that are referenced include: Tyson Beckford, Robert Redford, Steve Buscemi and the movie Fargo. It also references opera singer Pavarotti, model Cindy Crawford, Clint Eastwood’s characterization of Dirty Harry, and Jim Carrey in the movie The Cable Guy.

Hey Leonardo

For the longest time I had only ever heard the clean edit of the next song. When I downloaded “Why Don’t You Get a Job” by the Offspring, it was the album version. It certainly was not edited. As I think of the words that are edited from it, I chuckle. They seem tame compared to what words are allowed on the radio today.

Offspring’s Americana album was a concept album. It examined the unpleasant side of life in America. Songfacts says, The song fits the concept by examining how so many people get by in the country without being productive and contributing to society.

If you listen closely, the melody might sound familiar. That is because it is based on The Beatles song “Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da,” with some elements of Simon & Garfunkel’s “Cecilia.”

Why Don’t You Get A Job

I’ve told this story before. When the Dixie Chicks first hit the radio, I did not think they would last. I felt that they had too much of a traditional sound and that listeners would not like it. I was wrong and I am glad that they went on to have radio success.

Their album Wide Open Spaces was full of hits. I came to really love the harmonies of the Dixie Chicks, especially on the last single from the album.

The Chicks’ version of “Tonight the Heartache’s on Me” was released in April of 1999. It had been recorded in 1994 by singer/songwriter Joy Lynn White, whose version was much slower. The Chicks version has a tempo and attitude that conveys all the feelings of the lyrics.

I love the play on words in the title. “The next round’s on me” is something you might hear in bars all over the country. The story of the song takes place in a bar. A gal sees her ex walk in with another woman and “Boom” – the hurt is there. “Bartender, pour the wine, ’cause the hurtin’s all mine. Tonight, the heartache’s on me!”

The song is a guilty pleasure, I suppose.

Tonight The Heartache’s On Me

I hate to say that Sheryl Crow is a cover artist, because she is not. However, her cover songs are really good! Take for example, her cover of 1987’s Sweet Child ‘O Mine.

It was originally done, of course, by Guns N’ Roses. The lyrics came from a poem Axl Rose was working on. Songfacts says that “he wrote the song about his girlfriend, Erin Everly, the daughter of Don Everly of the Everly Brothers. After dating for four years, they got married at a quickie wedding in Las Vegas on April 28, 1990, but just nine months later, the marriage was annulled, with Everly claiming abuse.“

The Sheryl Crow version appeared in the Adam Sandler movie Big Daddy. It earned her the Grammy Award for Best Female Rock Vocal Performance in 2000. Her version appears near the middle of the movie right after they take the kid away. The Guns N’ Roses original is also played in the movie (at the end with the credits.)

I think her voice compliments this song very well. Her voice is much better than some of the folks who attempted to sing this when I hosted karaoke!

Sweet Child O’ Mine

The aforementioned green ogre, Shrek, ties in with my next song. I think this is the one that most people associate with the Shrek films. I’m talking, of course, about All Star by Smash Mouth.

Like most Smash Mouth originals, it was written by their guitarist, Greg Camp. He said in a Songfacts interview:

“When we were on tour for the first record, it’s still when people were writing fan mail, like, in the form of paper and pencils and typewriters and stuff,” said Camp. “We would get these big bags of fan mail and we would take them to the Laundromat and do our laundry and read all this mail while we were sitting around waiting for our clothes to get dry. And about 85-90 percent of the mail was from these kids who were being bullied or their brothers or older siblings were giving them s–t for liking Smash Mouth or liking whatever they’re doing or the way they dressed and stuff. So we were, like, ‘We should write a song for fans.’

Before I stopped DJing a couple years ago, this song was still being requested at high school dances.

All Star

It is always great to see an artist from the past make a come back. 1999 was a great year for Carlos Santana!

Most music people are aware of Clive Davis. He is a legendary record executive who has worked with many artists and even appeared on American Idol. He was the mastermind behind Santana’s Supernatural album.

Santana hadn’t had a hit since “Hold On” in 1982, so Davis teamed him with contemporary musicians like Wyclef Jean, Everlast and Lauryn Hill to make sure the younger generation took notice. The result was a wildly successful album that went over well with Santana’s old fans and created a legion of new ones. “Smooth” was the first single; it spent 12 weeks at #1 in the US.

Rob Thomas sang lead on “Smooth,” but that wasn’t the plan. He had never written a song for someone else before, so he jumped at the chance to write a song for Santana. When he finished it, Thomas suggested George Michael, one of his musical heroes, as the vocalist. Arista Records ended up asking Thomas to do the vocals, and when he did, it was in Michael’s style. “If you listen to the melody and the cadence, it’s an attempt to emulate his style in so many ways,” Rob said.

Smooth” won Song Of The Year and Record Of The Year at the 2000 Grammy Awards. Supernatural also won for Best Rock Album and Album Of The Year. Santana picked up a total of eight awards that night.

Fun fact: Santana has the distinction of waiting the longest between his first charting single and first #1 hit. In 1969, “Tango” hit #56 in the US, and 30 years later, “Smooth” was #1.

Smooth

The next song was probably THE ear worm of 1999. It was certainly one of those songs that got into your head. Believe it or not, Lou Bega’s “Mambo No 5” was a cover song! The song was originally done in 1952 by the Cuban-Mexican bandleader Perez Prado. Known as the “King of the Mambo,” Prado recorded numerous mambos. When he ran out of inspiration, he would simply number them. “Mambo No 5” was one of a series of eight.

The difference between the two versions? Perez Prado’s version was instrumental. In 1999, Lou Bega added lyrics to it. By doing so, he transformed it into a love song for several women. Those women: Angela, Pamela, Sandra, Rita, Monica, Erica, Tina, Mary and Jessica. It was reported that the girls he mentioned were all Lou’s former girlfriends. It is probably beyond coincidence that eight of the girls in the song have names that end in “A,” making them quite singable.

Why is it on my list? Because I will forever link it to Barbara Eden. Let me explain. My buddy Steve said to me one day, “Hey. Did you know that you can sing the I Dream of Jeannie Theme song to Mambo No 5 and it fits perfectly?” I looked at him like he was nuts…until I heard it.

So, when you give it a listen, when Lou says, “A little bit of (Girl’s name)…” when he says the girls name, start singing the theme song and watch how it fits. It’s uncanny and it is ridiculous! Now, every time I hear it, that is ALL I hear!

If you’d like me to punch my friend for you, I will.

Mambo #5

Finally, this week a song that I literally just mentioned because of a birth anniversary. Last Tuesday, I featured this for Tune Tuesday and Robert Goulet’s birthday. I didn’t realize that it would coincide with this week’s list. You can read about that here:

Tune Tuesday – A Pixar Classic

…or you can just listen to it here.

You’ve Got A Friend In Me

Alright, which one of your favorites did I miss from 1999? Tell me about it in the comments.

Next week, we enter a new decade with the year 2000. It was a year that seemed SO far away for many of us. We all breathed a sigh of relief when the world didn’t shut down at midnight on January 1st (the Y2K fiasco!). Remember that?

My list next week is straight forward, and has no cover songs on it (I may have to double check to be sure). There are a few songs that strike a chord with me, especially as I celebrated birthday #30. Another good mix comes your way in 7 days.

Thanks for reading.